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Ask The Vet: Deworming - April 07

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Do you have questions concerning your horse's current deworming program? Pose your question during the month of April for Dr. Laura Chamberlain regarding equine deworming.

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Question: I have a 20-year-old Arabian that coliced three weeks ago. She has recovered but still does not seem quite right. Most of her life she has been a very easy keeper and was alone up until two years ago when I rescued a very old neglected pony. I have been less than diligent about my deworming schedule and am now concerned that I have set up this whole scenario that my mare may be infected with parasites. I dewormed her on Easter with Ivermectin and was told that I should wait four weeks and give her the Panacur Powerpac for five days. My question is, how safe is this and should I give her a probiotic at the same time? My horse also foundered nine years ago the day after receiving her vaccines and I have not vaccinated her since. She and my pony live on approx. four acres and receive regular trims and care.
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Question: Do you know if there is another type of daily dewormer, other than Strongid C available on the market that is less expensive since I have several horses on my breeding farm?
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Question: Recently, an eight month old colt came to join our pasture along with three of our other horses. He was never been dewormed by the previous owner so I put him on daily Strongid C and gave him Safeguard, the same time as the other horses. I read up on what he should have already been given in the lines of dewormers and I wonder if he still needs to be dewormed since he missed so much from the begining. He is a very healthy looking horse when he first arrived, but noticed that he didn't have any hair behind his "elbow area" and his inside middle to upper hind legs. The skin appear to be very healthy looking and very soft, but I wonder why he still has not developed any hair (one year, one month now). Does this have any thing to do with the lack of deworming during the first part of his life that affected the proper growth, etc? We live in the southeast area and I know this part of the country is highly infected with almost everything. What should I do for continuing his deworming program for his age, and does his haircoat have anything to do with the lack of parasite control at an early age?
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Question: I am wondering about the safety of an herbal, 7-day/month dewormer currently on the market. The ingredients include: black walnut, slippery elm, sage, juniper, cascara, clove, kelp and juniper.
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Question: I had some weanlings that after weaning (about 3 weeks) all had snotty noses. They had no fever but were eating and drinking normally. One vet said it was just a little stress and another said it was probably roundworms causing the problem. The mare was on a deworming scedule and the foals were started at 6 weeks at 6 week intervals. Can roundworms cause a snotty nose in foals or horses?
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Question: Is there a type of deworm that can cause death? What are some general tips an owner should keeping in mind when choosing a dewormer?
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Question: I have only one older horse (25 years old). We never leave home except to ride around the neighborhood. No other horses share his pasture. In fact, the closest horse is 1/2 mile away. Does he still need deworming every eight weeks as recommended?
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Question: My horses are on a regular deworming schedule at the farm where I board. Recently, ringworm seems to have popped up in the pasture only in the field where my geldings graze. Is this a systemic issue or is there a dewormer that helps kills off this type of worm? I have been treating it topically but seems very stubborn to go away. Any ideas?
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Question: Have you heard of any horses that have had a reaction such as head shaking after deworming with a certain paste dewormer (Quest)? My horse has started this last spring and was told it might be the dewormer that caused this new vice. I used it just once and followed the weight dose.
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Question: We live in the high desert of California where it is very hot and dry or very cold and dry. I thought I read once that the worm larva cannot survive well in the manure in these conditions so the need to deworm is much less. We currently deworm every two months with Zimectrin. Is this still appropriate? Our horses are out in a group on dry pasture, we remove manure from their pastures regularly, and they are fed in one area. They are fed in containers, but some hay comes out and they eat it off the dirt.
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Question: I would like a simple chart on when to deworm with what kind of dewormer. We deworm all young horses every month until they are around 2 yrs old, then every other month. I try to rotate, but find it confusing as to when and which one to rotate to from the Ivermectin.
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Question: I live in Georgia and have been getting different advise from two vets regarding deworming. I have two mature horses and a 5-week-old foal. I plan to deworm her with Ivermicten next week. I just dewormed the mare with Strongid. I was told strongyloids were passd through the milk. Any ideas for a schedule in the Southeast?
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Question: I am keeping four horses in Florida year round. How frequently should they be dewormed? They are at home most of the time but there are horses on both sides of them with whom they can interact.
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Question: I dewormed my mare with ivermectin within 12 hours of foaling as I heard that it helps the foal build an immunity to parasites. Is that true?

This foal is seen eating his mother's manure quite frequently. He seems only interested in the fresh manure and not any other in the pasture. Should I deworm him sooner than two, three and six months? Should I deworm the mare again and with what product?
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Question: My mare is on a rotational deworming program every other month. However, she is pastured in a fairly small area with five other mares who are not dewormed nearly as often. What can I do to protect her from contamination from the other untreated horses?
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Question: In a boarding stable, is it necessary to deworm all horses at the same time? Is doing so within a couple of weeks acceptable?
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Question: I am concerned that a 14 month old filly that I purchased two months ago may have a heavy parasite load. I started to deworm her one time with a 5 day Safeguard program, but after two doses, she had a severe case of colic. I am thinking that prior to attempting to deworm her again I may give her five days of daily dewormer and then follow with a paste dewormer-probably ivermectin. What is your opinion of this idea?
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Question: My 10-month-old filly has had diarrhea for four months off and on. I have spent 4,000 dollars on her and she been treated for parasites and seems to have had everything else done and the diarrhea still continues. Could you offer your advice?
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Question: Can my horse be dewormed five weeks after it was last dewormed?
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Question: I follow a traditional deworming program rotating products used and deworming every eight weeks. However, I have always wondered if fecal checks done by my vet couldn't eliminate some of the dewormings. If a check was done just prior to a scheduled deworming and came up clean, could deworming be postponed for another eight week period? I'm not thinking so much about reducing costs as the amount of chemicals the horse is taking in and possibly reducing parasite resistance. I do not know anyone who follows a regimen like this so there is probably a good reason not to. Can you clear this up for me?
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Question: I am a bit concerned about overdosing. Last month I went to deworm my pony and the dial that regulates the amount of dewormer broke as I was plunging it into my 500 pound pony's mouth. Luckily, it was only 2x the dose he was supposed to get and no reactions occured. I have heard a lot about overdosing and I know you only have to dose a horse 6x the ammount of certain dewormers to have a bad reaction. How many more times would you have to administer to have an overdose with other brand name paste dewormers?
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Question: How soon after a mare foals can she be dewormed? What is the best kind of dewormer to use as the foal is only a month old and we do not want to harm her in any way?
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Question: Is it safe to deworm a horse on antibiotics? She is an older mare (23-years-old) and it's her second bout with influenza. If so, which dewormer should I use?
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Question: I have an older mare (20+ years old) that recently developed a severe case of uveitis in one eye. I have read that deworming a horse with uveitis can sometimes cause a new flare-up in the affected eye. Is this a real possibility? Are there certain types or brands of dewormers that may be less likely to cause an adverse reaction in her eye? I just got her over the acute phase of her uveitis, so I really don't want to do something that could set her back again, but she does need to be dewormed. Any thoughts on what I should do?
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Question: I have several horses on the Pfizer Strongid Daily dewormer program; five are active competitors, one retired and one pony. I also have a couple of boarded horses. What sort of resistance has developed to this product? Also, since my boarded horses use the same grazing pastures as my Strongid-using horses, should I require the owners of the boarded horses to use Strongid daily dewormer as well?
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Question: For years, I've paste dewormed every eight weeks, rotating through the anthelmintics and hopefully, protecting my horse. For the last few years, many top-notch publications have presented articles that have made me question my practices. It appears that no one wants to really be specific about exactly what to deworm with and when based on the region of the country you live in. I've never understood why deworming charts have ever been created addressing this major problem for horseowners.

It's my understanding that it is necessary to administer a 5-day powerdose of Panacur to eliminate encysted small strongyles, but I have never found a single person who has used this method. Could it be because of the cost? None of my veterinarians have ever recommended it, either. They say our horses are at risk, but I'm curious what the real truth is. I don't know if a fecal test will identify their existence. They also say that the ivermectins are the only anthelmintics with no record of resistance, so I had to question whether I should rotate between (my personal choices) Ivercare, Strongid, Panacur (single dose) and Zimecterin Gold (after first freeze and first thaw). The problem with not having experts prepare the charts by region, is many horseowners lack of knowledge of when specific worms are active in a particular region and not knowing when you should be giving a specific dewormer during the different seasons. I'm living in the Fort Worth-Dallas area and it's not easy to get a "first freeze-first thaw." I'm sure I'm not the only horseperson that is frustrated about trying to protect their horse from parasites and if clinics were available on the subject, I'd bet most would want to attend. Any clarification you can provide would be most appreciated.
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Question: My mare just had a foal in which we did not even know she was pregnant. We have dewormed the mare once since we purchased her in early August. Should I deworm her again? If so, how often should I continue to deworm now with a foal on her side?
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Question: How often do you deworm foals? I have been deworming every eight weeks and was told you should deworm foals every week.
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Question: Could you please advise about deworming the pregnant mare, and the mare with foal? What products are safe and what schedule should be followed?
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Question: I am about to start my horse on Strongid C daily dewormer, but I am a little concerned about what will happen if he misses some days. He is boarded, and I am not there to see that he gets it as part of his feed ration. What can you tell me about "missed doses" affecting the overall effectiveness?
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Question: How often should I deworm since I occasionally clean up the manure in the pastures? I have one horse and two cows on three acres.
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Question: I want to cut down my 8-year-old gelding’s deworming treatments in an effort to minimize his chemical intake, and yet remain healthy.

For the past two years, he’s been on the following deworming rotation:

Dec & Feb = QuestPlus (tapeworms)

May & Sept = Ivermectin

July = Panacur (Safeguard)

The last time he was dewormed was in September, receiving nothing this winter. He lives at a rather large boarding facility, sharing a large paddock with two other horses and neighbor horses on all sides. He recieves grass hay 2x daily, has no grass to graze (unless I hand graze him)
and receives a supplements, including a pro-biotic. We are in western Montana where the ground freezes from approx. Oct through mid-March. He is ridden 4 to 5 times a week in dressage, jumping and trails. We will travel to some shows this summer, perhaps 5 to 6 shows.

My plan was to treat him with Ivermectin in the spring and fall. What are your thoughts?
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Question: I have 2 horses in southeast Connecticut. They live in an open environment where they can come and go as they please. I use a paste for tapeworms in the Spring (Equimax)and Fall. During the warm weather, May thru Nov/Dec, I have them on a daily dewormer (Strongid 2CX). By using a daily dewormer, I feel that I am doing the best of two evils. Instead of killing the worms once they've gotten in, I'm keeping them out. However, there seem to be strong feelings both pro and con regarding daily dewormers (you are giving your horses poison every day instead of once a month) and I wonder if I am doing the right thing when my horses are at home and not in a large barn situation. What would be your recommendation for the use of daily vs monthly deworming?
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Question: My horse has started to lose his hair along the top line of his back down to his tail. There are no bumps or scales, just hair loss. I have not been riding him during the winter months. Could this be parasite related? If so, what should I do to treat it?
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Question: I have stopped paste deworming my 13-year-old gelding Appaloosa when he developed a chemical burn reaction to the dewormers about six months ago. I do, however, have his stool checked every 8 weeks. He is alone in his pasture and I pick up his manure every day. I have dewormed him for the 11 years I owned him by rotating the paste dewormers. My question is, what do you think, under the circumstances I described, of my stopping his deworming program? I don't like using the daily dewormers.
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Question: I deworm my horse every six weeks, but I have four horses on the same pasture. Should I treat the pasture? If so, what product should I treat it with? Is there a safe chemical to use on pastures for parasites?
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Question: I recently bought a large group of horses from the same owner. I have been told that none of these horses have been dewormed for just over two years. Before that, these horses were dewormed regularly with Ivermectin products only. Apparently, the owner became disabled and was unable to personally deworm the horses anymore.

The horses are Thoroughbreds and Paints, and they are fillies and mares, colts and geldings, and even a couple of stallions. They range in age from 4 to 27 years old. The horses came off of fields in the Midwest that were overgrazed or were devoid of any grass (they are not suffering from any malnutrition though). A few of the horses were confined to smaller paddocks that were muddy and had a lot of feces in them. The horses seem to be in good health overall, but I am concerned about the lack of deworming. I cannot easily collect samples of each of the horse's feces to test for worms since it would be hard to tell which horse's feces are which. They are all kept outside all of the time in small to large groups (I don't have any stalls, only run-in sheds). I want to do the best treatment for these horses, but I really can't afford to have a vet deworm them all for me.

My questions are:

I want to deworm these horses with an Ivermectin product. However, I am afraid that I may cause impaction colics in some of the horses due to a large die off of worms. How likely is this after two years without deworming?

Is there a different way to deworm them more safely without having to call on the veterinarian?

Should I deworm any horse differently due to their age?

Once they have been dewormed with Ivermectin, how long should I wait to start them on a different type of dewormer for rotation purposes? Do you have any suggestions as to what type of dewormer to use next?

How likely is it that these horses have been harmed internally from a heavy load of worms (if they have a heavy load)?

What type of damage could they have ended up with from not being dewormed for two years?
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Question: This question is in regards to a horse I have in a paddock that gets picked up every day. This horse is alone in the paddock, and he does not get hand grazed outside his paddock. A vet that I consult with tells me that I don’t need to deworm him regularly, but just check him. He also does not regularly deworm any of his own horses, kept under similar conditions, but he does do a fecal exam. My question is what about the encysted worms? Other vets have told me, and I have read, encysted worms do not show in a fecal. The vet I consult with says when they die, they will shed and show up in the fecal. I believe this is the way he said it, but perhaps I am confused.

Regardless, I will probably deworm this horse twice a year with a dewormer that also includes bots and tapes. I just feel like deworming has gotten out of control, and if you did what the equine pharmaceuticals you should, you would be deworming every month. What is your understanding of encysted worms?
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Question: We just dewormed our 2-year-old ponies and found a worm in one of the feces, but we have no idea what type of worm it is? I'm wondering if there is a web site where we could see a picture of various parasitic worms after they are expelled from the horse from dewormer? We just purchased these ponies and don't have any idea what their deworming program was before. Plus, we want to keep from infesting the rest of the horse herd.
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