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Ask The Vet: Equine Dental Care - October 07

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Make sure your horse is ready for the winter, which also includes his dental care! Pose your questions concerning dentistry for Dr. Mary Delorey during the month of October.

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Question: Last summer I had three horses floated by an equine dentist who was not a veterinarian, but came highly recommended. All three horses drooled when he finished. Two quit drooling after a day, but the other continued to drool and developed a fever. My equine veterinarian immediately asked if he had his teeth done recently. A sore was located on his tongue and he was put on antibiotics. He deteriorated and was moved to an equine hospital. His tongue continued to swell until it protruded out of his mouth and obstructed his breathing. Emergency surgery was performed followed by three more surgeries to drain the walled off abscess. He spent two weeks in the hospital and was unable to eat for nearly three. I nearly lost him. The mouth is such a germy place and all three horses received mouth injuries. The equine dentist said he put disinfectant in the water the tools sat in, but the water was not changed between horses. How common are mouth injuries? How often do they develop into abscesses? What can be done to prevent this from happening in the future?
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Question: I have an older (21-year-old) gelding that has become increasingly thinner over the past few weeks. You can by now even see his ribs a little and I'm very worried. I have been feeding him the same as always, but I did notice that when he takes a bite, half the food will fall out of his mouth while he is chewing. I am wondering if his teeth could be the cause of why he is getting so thin and what I should do about this?
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Question: My 8-year-old Paint horse mare that has been a cribber for about three years. My question is what are the side effect to her teeth? Can she break them, wear them down to nothing, causing eating issues later in life?

She is wearing a cribbing collar and this has helped, but my concerns are the long-term negative effects of such a bad habit! Are there any proven proactive actions or devices to help curb this habit? I'm worried about her grinding her teeth to nothing.
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Question: We have a four and a half month old colt. Today, as we were working with him, he bumped his mouth and started bleeding. When we looked in his mouth to see why he was bleeding, we were surprised to find what looks like a cyst where his upper right incisor should be, but no tooth. The tooth on the left is large and seems to be normal. We looked in his mouth when he was born, but I'm ashamed to say we haven't checked latley. Is this normal and what do you think the problem might be?
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Question: Can "cuppy teeth" make it difficult for a horse to eat hay? What should I do for the horse if he can't eat hay?
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Question: I am a small animal veterinarian who also owns two horses. Since I have not worked on horses since I stopped doing mixed practice almost 20 years ago, I summon my local large animal veterinarian for any problems with my horses. I have a 5-year-old Paint gelding that I bought in May of this year. I had a prepurchase exam done on him and nothing unusual was found. He mouths the bit and likes to chew on the cross ties and his lead rope, but I have always thought this is probably a personality quirk and he just needs a pacifier. He eats fine, appears to have normal dental occlusion, is a delight to ride, and has had no problems otherwise. The other day I was putting the bit in his mouth and discovered a lower lateral incisor jutting out at a 45 degree angle. Upon close inspection I have decided that this is most likely a retained deciduous tooth. All of the permanent incisors are present and in place, and this one definitely does not belong there. It is firmly attached by soft tissue, but will wiggle a bit. It does not appear painful, and I cannot see any evidence of periodontal disease. There is a small bit of inflammation between the deciduous and permanent tooth, but the wedge is not trapping food. I see this every day in dogs, but as far as I can remember I don't think I have ever seen this in a horse. Since we had a prepurchase exam, and his wolf teeth were removed by the previous owner's veterinarian about two years ago, I am surprised no one has ever noticed this before. (I am also a little embarrassed that I did not find it sooner, as I am really picky about my horses and notice every little thing!!) My questions are: Could this retained deciduous tooth be contributing to his mouthing habit? How common are retained deciduous teeth in horses? Is there any hope at 5 years old that this thing will loosen up and fall out on its' own without causing further damage, or should I make arrangements to have this baby tooth removed? Do horses get periodontal disease secondary to retained teeth like dogs do?
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Question: I have a 5-month-old with a slight overbite- and a 4-year-old with a slight underbite. In both of these ponies, the front teeth still touch so the over and underbites are not that pronounced. Is this normal or should you expect that all equine teeth should match perfectly?
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Question: I recently had my show mare's teeth floated by my vet. I have had this done in the past with no issues. He uses an electric float. Only during this particular appointment, I could tell afterwards that she was obviously in pain. She drinks water in "sips," which tells me she has sensitivity in her mouth. It is now day three and she is not any better. I've given her a gram of bute per day, just to help. Will this sensitivity improve? What are your recommendations?
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Question: I have a 20-month-old Appendix/Quarter horse filly. I looked in her mouth and noticed an overbite. Is this situation correctable during developmental years? What dental care should be done during the first two years?
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Question: I have a Quarter horse mare that is almost 24 -years-old. I wonder what kind of dental care she will need as she gets older? I'm not sure she's had her teeth examined for quite a while, and I'm concerned she might be getting parrot mouth. What should I do?
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Question: I run an equine rescue facility. I currently have a 5-year-old Paint mare that I recieved as a yearling since she was born nearly blind. For some reason, she loses much weight every late summer and fall, then puts it back on over winter and spring. She is dewormed regularly and her teeth were examined and found to be fine. She recieves more feed than most of the other horses her size, and I have been supplementing her with a Senior feed. Two summers ago, she had a very bad bout of colic and nearly lost her. She got better, but has colic episodes at least twice a year where she shows all the signs of colic, yet by the time the vet arrives, she is fine. This is with and without myself giving her any medication. I also notice she drinks enormous amounts of water compared to other horses and floods her stall afterwards. I have had bloodwork and other tests done on her, and everything has come back normal. I have been giving some probiotics too. Once again, it's fall and she has lost much weight. My question is, although her teeth are fine as far as not needing to be floated, could she somehow not chew properly and thus not digest well? She eats everything I give her, but she eats extremely fast. Several times she has nicked my arm with her teeth at feeding time because she is in such a hurry to eat (and blind). Yet, she once again looks like she is not being fed. I'm at a loss on what to do for her......
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Question: I have an older Arabian mare that had a tooth, which was sitting sideways and scratching her cheek. My farrier discovered it. He is an Amish man and floats teeth the old fashioned way, using hand tools. I had noticed that she would let partially chewed food fall from her mouth, was low in weight, and ate very little. I had planned to haul her to my veterinarian since he will not do teeth on the farm. But, because the farrier was already there, I had him look. He got his speculum, took some needlenose plyers and pulled it out with little discomfort to the horse (no sedation), and little work for him. I was rather stunned. He explained that the tooth was no longer in the bone and was only attached by fleshy tissue, thus it came out easy with very little pain for the horse. She is now eating well, gaining weight, and no longer dropping chewed food. My question is, how and why was this tooth so loose and sitting sideways? My farrier said it's just her age, and I do understand, but what caused the tooth to come out of the bone? Was there possibly an abcess or some other condition, or is this just something that naturally happens to older horses due to age alone? I do suppose there is the possibility she was kicked or smacked her face in some way before I got her too, but the surrounding teeth are fine. In fact, he said she has all of her other teeth, and did not need floating.
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Question: In one of you answers posted this month you stated that "Only an experienced licensed veterinarian should provide dental health care for your horse." What if our vets do not want to do dentals or recommend a dental technician that went to school for this specific field?
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Question: When I lived in Arizona, I had an equine dentist do annual dental work on our horses. We moved to southern Oregon and can't find an equine dentist other than a vet. Are vets the only authorized equine dentists in some states?
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Question: I have a 7-year-old Arab/Paint gelding that has a sour odor coming from his nostril area. He is also sticking out his tongue and acting like there is something in his mouth he does not like! What do I look for?
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Question: Recently, my horse has been unwilling to open his mouth to take the bit. When looking inside, I noticed that the roof of his mouth, behind his front teeth, was quite swollen. Nothing has changed in his diet or daily routine and he does take the bit finally.
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Question: I have a 7-year-old stallion that has begun dropping food when he eats. We have had a vet come and float his teeth and we were pleased with her work. However, he continues to drop his feed.
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Question: I've heard concerns about power floats in the hands of the inexperienced possibly causing abscesses down the line in teeth. What is your opinion of power floating vs. sedated hand floating by an equine dental specialist?
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Question: My 6-month-old weanling colt has been losing his top front teeth. He really likes his salt/mineral block, but I wonder if the abrasion is wearing out his teeth or if it is caused by some other deficiency. He is getting all the free-choice leafy fine-stemmed alfalfa hay he wants and a ration of rolled corn and oats morning and night. I have also just started adding a daily ounce of Farnam Foal Care vitamins to his ration. He had a full set of teeth as a baby so I have really been upset to see the loss of his top front teeth. I am not experienced in this and wonder if it is similiar to children losing their baby teeth, being replaced with permanent ones or is this a poor, long-term prognosis? He seems very healthy, bright-eyed and in good flesh at the current time. Any suggestions or reading material you could suggest would be really appreciated!
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Question: I have a 20-year-old gelding who has been floated twice since July, but is still quidding his hay. High points were removed and the tartar removed, but he is missing some rear teeth on either side of the jaws. He doesn't have any problem with slobbering, eating his grains and alfalfa cubes, but his major problem is hay. It appears that he chews the hay into small pieces and then spits it out. What could his continuing problem be with the hay since soaking it doesn't help?
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Question: This state regulates teeth floating to veterinarians only, the problem is; 80 percent of my horses done by the vet now have permanent tooth pain. I presume nerve damage since it is most obvious when they drink cold water.

I believe the problem is due to the vet's schedule since she wants to get it done quick, and move on to the next farm, which doesn't allow for the power floats to cool off, and hence the permanent nerve damage. Until this issue is resolved, my horses are doing better without dental care. My suggestions to her for more frequent break (cool off) time has fallen on deaf ears. So, how do I go about finding a veterinarian that isn't so rushed? Since she is the ONLY vet in town, I will be hauling my horses at least 250 miles for dental care, that is IF I can find one. I would really like an equine dentist versus a veterinarian, but at a minimum, the old fashioned file float would be GREAT.
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Question: Are there any health issues I should know about with a horse that is missing two of his primary incisors?
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Question: What is a wave mouth and how does it develop?
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Question: I have a mare that has started quidding, but not all the time. She has been floated every year for the past 6 years by a Master Equine Dentist. I have a lot of confidence in him, but was wondering if this is somewhat normal behavior for a horse that is up in years. I have had this mare for 31 years and she is now 36. She still has a good appetite and is out with the other horses almost 24/7, and only kept indoors when the weather is bad. She has just started the quidding since August and, like I said, doesn't do it all the time. Her weight is good and so is her muscle tone (for her age). She has been dewormed, vaccinated, trimmed every 7 to 8 weeks and does get her share of treats and attention. She still holds the "Boss Mare" position in the herd too. I know that she has lost some of her teeth, but still has enough to continue eating pretty well. She is on beet pulp and a good Senior feed pellet and we try to get soft, good quality hay. I'm trying to do everything I know to give her good care. I guess what I want to know is there anything else I could do to keep her from quidding and what is the cause of it?
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Question: I sent a 2-year-old out for training this spring. I had the dentist come to my farm and pull his wolf teeth and be sure his teeth were good before I sent him out. Since then, he has had his teeth done every three months by the dentists at the track. Isn't that excessive for a 2-year-old? I was told that was normal.
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Question: How can I estimate the age of a horse by looking at the teeth? Where could I find pictures or examples online?
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Question: On Sept. 6/07, I had a 5-year-old mare's teeth floated. She was sedated and tooth 311 and 411 were found to have very sharp points. Sharp point were also found along the lingual surface of both arcades and buccal surfaces of upper as well. She has dropped grain from her mouth for some time now, but was tilting her head to the outside when loping to the right, which was why I decided to have her teeth examined. She is still dropping some grain, but no longer holds her head to the side; however, she has a cracking sound when she eats hay. The sound seems to be coming from her temperal region.

Could you please tell me if a speculum might have put something out of place in her jaw or if an uneven tooth surface could cause this cracking sound when she chews hay? Also, could this cracking jaw cause problems for her and what could be done about it?
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Question: What are your thoughts about fashioning a "bit seat" for the horse who "jaws" at the bit? Dentistry has been integreted into regular maintainance at home, and there seem to be no problems with occlusion, dropping of grain, etc.

I ride an extremely light mouthed horse (14-years-old), that is cued in the bit accordingly. He needs no restraint and the trainers often use a myriad of bits to try to correct, along with a snug caveson, of which I never see a difference. I now have him home, and would like to be consistent with the bits (using only one comfortable bit) and being the only rider.

Once, he did have a bit seat fashioned and he was decidedly more comfortable. At this same time, the trainer had him in a Mullen port, and he flexed nicely and seemed more comfortable. My aim is to not overflex over the verticle (western pleasure horse) and have him comfortable in the bit. Do you have any other suggestions?
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Question: I have a 10-year-old Quarter horse mare that loves to eat and will eat constantly if I let her. She gets fed three times a day with a combination of alfalfa and bermuda hay. I had her teeth done about 18 months ago and they seem to be fine. I would prefer not to get them done more often than every three years. Does that schedule sound like it will work? We live in a very dry desert climate and I feed about half of her meal dry and the other half soaked in water, so it gives her a more chewy texture.
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Question: Can you provide some pros and cons for doing root canals on horses? Does it make a difference as to how old the horse is and where the bad teeth are located in the mouth? My question is from the perspective of deciding between pulling the tooth and trying to save it.
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Question: When my equine dentist looked at my mare's teeth this spring, he said that they were in very good shape. She is 19-years-old and really is in good shape. When her vet came to give her spring shots he said that one tooth in the back was cracked, but it was not bothering her and to leave it alone for now. My questins is, who should I believe, her dentist or her vet? She very well may have cracked it between the time the dentist saw her and the time the vet came to give her, her shots. If it is not bothering her, should I have it pulled anyway, or is it alright for me to wait until it does bother her?
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Question: My equine dentist told me that all horses need their teeth done every year. Does it depend on the horse and their age? I have had some horses that need dental care four times in a lifetime and others that seem to need it every two years.
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Question: Would you please comment on mouth ulcers regarding what causes them and their treatment? I have a 20+year-old horse that is also diagnosed with Cushing's syndrome.
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Question: My gelding is a healthy 5-year-old with no dental problems. The vet checked his teeth in February and said they were fine. My vet will be deworming soon and I wanted to know, do I need to have his teeth checked again by my vet or a dentist? If so, what questions should I be asking?
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Question: Our 11-year-old Quarter horse gelding has an infection in his mouth (smelly!). Our vet is on the way out to determine the cause. The gelding ("Cinco") is not eating (about 24 hours), wants to crib (not normal for this horse) and keeps moving his stiff lower jaw back and forth. We had a different gelding four years ago with similar symptons that ended up being caused by a decayed tooth that had to be pulled. If this is the same problem, is it really that common? In over 30 years of owning horses, I've never had ths problem, and now twice in five years? The geldings are not related. Is there anything we are doing that could be causing this? If it is not a decayed tooth, what else could cause the nasty smell, lack of appetite, cribbing and dripping saliva coming from his mouth? Is there anything I can do to make him more comfortable until the vet gets here? I've rinsed his mouth with a hose every half hour for the past two hours. He'll let me put the hose in his mouth, but won't open enough for me to see the infection, and really wants to bite on the metal end of the hose.
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Question: I have a 7-year-old Quarter horse gelding named Baxter. About a week and a half ago, while I was rubbing his jawline, I noticed a lump about the size of a jackball. It was not there prior to the week and a half. When I palpate the area, he showed no signs of pain or discomfort. The nodule has not increased in size since it's discovery. I have seen no signs of dental disease (i.e. he eats all of his hay, no excessive salivation, chewing food well, normal feces, continues to gain weight and he does not appear to have any problem with the bit). He is stalled with access to an outdoor paddock. I try to ride at least four days a week from 1 1/2 to 2 hours daily. He moves well, no signs of lameness. My trainer, who found Baxter for me, took a look at it and mentioned Pigeon Fever, but was also quick to point out that it could just be an inflammed gland and to just watch it. I have researched this Pigeon Fever disease and find it hard to believe that this is what my horse has. He exihibits none of the signs or symptoms. However, I don't think it is a dental problem either. Do you have any ideas?
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