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Ask The Vet: Nutrition - September 08
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Are you concerned that the grain ration you are feeding is enough or that the hay you offer your horse is high enough in protein and digestibility? Pose your nutrition questions for Dr. Judy Marteniuk during the month of September.
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Question: I will soon be aquiring a weanling. There is so much information and difference in professional opinion about the sugar/starch/protein/fat feeding regimes and DOD. I've spoken with vets, equine nutritionists, feed distributors and read countless articles on the importance of feeding growing horses diets with low NSC %, the clinical studies in which there was no difference between study groups fed a high, medium or low starch diet. I've read articles that talk about the importance of feeding a starch source, such as oats or corn. I had one vet tell me to add black sunflower seed, but I've read that the omega 6 fatty acids can contribute to arthritis. Is there literature that indicates what percentage of each nutrient that a growing horse needs? I've had horses my entire life and never had an issue with feeding adult horses, but this foal thing is making me nuts!
I should also probably include the fact that the Paint horse weanling will be 6-months-old and possibly weigh anywhere from 500 to 600 pounds when I get her. My current feed choice that I am looking at after careful consideration from various feed representatives is a Triple Crown 30 percent supplement with one flake of alicia/bluestem hay and one pound of chopped alfalfa. Because of the articles that describe the importance of starch, I thought I might add in 1/2 lb of steamed oats. According to the
Tripe Crown rep, the Weanling would not need any additional vitamin/mineral supplements or oats. I was told the oats could lead to DOD. The weanling will have access to a good pasture for 12 hours per day.
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Like many things, there are many ways of getting to the same end point. When feeding a young growing horse, certain aspects are important. Provide the essential nutrients needed for the weanling to grow appropriately. Make sure that your calcium: phosphorus ratio is 1.5:1 to 2.5:1 and that both minerals are supplied in adequate amounts. Make sure that the lysine requirement is adequate. Keep the diet consistent and make feed changes gradually to maintain a steady growth curve. The weanling should be maintained at a BCS of 4.5 to 6.
To determine the nutrient requirements for your weanling, refer to The National Research Council’s Nutritional Requirements for Horses that was published in 2007. Also, if possible have your roughage sources tested for their nutrient content. I believe all equine diets should be roughage based, as roughage is important to maintaining intestinal health. Now, find a concentrate or complete feed that will complement your hay and balance the diet to meet your weanling’s requirements. I believe in the KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) theory and feed only as few products as possible to meet the dietary needs of an individual. (No need for the sunflower seeds) In addition, feed multiple small meals of concentrates, as this will reduce the variations in blood sugar. Concentrates should be fed after hay has been given rather than before to reduce the chance of concentrates entering the caecum and altering fermentation. Also, when developing and monitoring your weanlings diet, select someone you feel comfortable with and who is willing to help you adjust the ration as the weanling grows. Do not jump from one person’s ideas to another’s as this will lead to feed changes and potentially alterations in the growth rate ,which can lead to DOD. Finally, remember that DOD is multi-factorial with genetic and environment also being important.
This weanling should eat about 2 to 2.5 percent of its body weight in dry feed per day (approximately 12 to 15 pounds per day). The Triple Crown 30 percent will likely provide all the vitamins and minerals needed, but since the product’s Ca:P ratio isn’t balanced for a growing horse the other components of the diet will have to balance the Ca:P ratio. Alfalfa, also has more calcium than phosphorus. Both the TC30 percent and the alfalfa contain lysine, which is essential for a growing foal. In addition, both the alfalfa and the TC 30 percent have a protein content higher than needed by a growing weanling; however, to determine if the total dietary protein will be in excess, the protein content of the other approximately 9 pounds of the diet is needed. (Remember that this weanling will be initially eating about 12 pounds/day.) Finally, as stated previously, determine the total amount and types of forage (pasture and hay) fed, have a forage test done if possible, and then using the NRC’s guidelines finalize the diet for your weanling. As stated above, find someone who does not have a vested economic interest, but understands nutrition to help you. If you have an animal science or veterinary medicine college near by, contact them for a recommendation on someone to assist you developing the weanling’s ration.
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Question: My horse foundered 2 years ago. With speciality foot care, she is now sound, but has a very dry coat. I was told Dumor Stablenergy was made for foundered horses to replace protein they are lacking. I received
confirmation that this product is very low in sugar, but I want to make sure that I am still providing the proper nutrition for my mare. Are you familiar with this product?
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Without more information on what else your mare is eating and her medical history, I’m unable to fully answer your question. I have successfully fed Dumor feeds in the past; however, I have not personally used this product. In general, all of the low sugar/starch feeds currently on the market can be successfully fed to horses, although they were designed for horses suffering from or at risk of Equine Metabolic Syndrome/Insulin Resistance. With your mare’s hair coat problems, I would be concerned about other issues, such as parasites, Cushing’s (if an older mare) and underlying health concerns. Your veterinarian can help you determine what may be causing her dry hair coat.
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Question: I have a Breed stock mare that is 10-years-old. I was feeding her grass hay and Bermuda pellets. This last year she has really lost a lot of weight and her topline is showing. I started feeding her two very large
flakes of alfalfa in the morning and night. Within a month, she was looking great. She has a tendency to be a HOT mare on the trail. Before I started feeding her all of this alfalfa she was terrific on the trail. Now that she looks great, she is an absolute basket case on the trail. She is jumping and spooking at everything with nostrils flared and ready to jump out of her skin. Can you please suggest what I can feed her to give her all of the nutrition and weight that she needs, but without all of the unwanted energy? I am usually only able to ride a couple of times a week.
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First, I would make sure that she is spooking because of her attitude and not because of a vision problem. If she is otherwise fine, try reducing her alfalfa hay and providing her needed calories with potentially a fat supplement and/or some of the low starch feeds now on the market.
Also, did you determine the reason for the weight loss this spring? Was the hay quality poor? Was she receiving less feed? Were you riding more? Since the mare’s weight is now back to normal, you may be able to return to your old feeding program if feed quality and amount are adequate. Finally, lounging her for 15 to 30 minutes prior to your ride may help to take the edge off.
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Question: My Quarter horse is in his mid-30s and is starting to have trouble chewing his alfalfa hay. It takes him a long time to finish his meals. I give him equine senior and rice bran as an additional meal and he is maintaining his weight nicely. I may be moving him and my 6-year-old Peruvian to a different barn that feeds alfalfa cubes. These horses have only eaten hay and I wonder if I am going to set them up for major issues like choke or colics if I switch them to a cube diet. Do you think it is better to keep the older horse on hay or would soaked cubes make it easier for him to eat? Do you think in general, cubes tend to cause more issues than hay?
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The hay cubes should be fine for your horses. The older gelding will definitely need to have the hay cubes soaked to prevent choke and make it easier for him to eat them. I often recommend soaked hay cubes for the older horse to vary their diet along with eating a senior feed. One problem that you may have with the younger horse is that he may be able to eat his cubes much faster than his hay and he may then start some bad habits such as wood chewing, etc due to boredom. Also, I would make the switch from hay to cubes gradually over several days; therefore, take some of your hay to the new barn or gradually start switching feeds while still at your current barn.
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Question: Can grazing primarily reed canary grass cause hoof problems such as dried/cracked hooves or white line disease? The pasture is wet in the spring and then dries up late spring when they are allowed to graze it.
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Grazing reed canary grass does not result in any foot problems.
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Question: I am going to be moving my horses from Michigan to Florida this month. They are use to timothy and alfalfa hay in Michigan. However in Florida, good quality and affordable hay is hard to come by. I have heard pros and cons regarding feeding coastal, bermuda and tifton hays, which are all locally grown. I was considering feeding coastal and mixing in some straight alfalfa. What are your thoughts regarding the best hay to feed? My horses will be on pasture during the day and will be ridden at least 2 to 3 times a week.
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Try to take some of your Michigan hay to Florida with you to allow time to find some hay and to be able to gradually switch over to Florida hay. All three grasses are warm perennial grasses. Coastal is a type of Bermuda grass and Tifton is a Bermuda grass hydrid. The quality of these hays depends on when they are harvested. If harvested at the appropriate time, Tifton hay appears to be the most nutritional: however, I would select the hay that was harvested in a timely manner. If the horses are pastured, and fed a combination of grass hay with alfalfa hay, their nutritional needs should be met.
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Question: My horse has been diagnosed with lower ringbone. Are hoof supplements that are designed to promote bone growth dangerous to feed? My concern is if the arthritis spurs are caused by abnormal growth around the
coffin bone, supplements to increase bone growth might cause the ringbone to worsen because an accelerated bone growth. On the other hand, hoof supplements to strengthen the hoof might be helpful if it supports the coffin bone. I don't want to supplement my horse with something that could potentially cause her ringbone to increase.
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There are no supplements proven to increase bone growth. The joint supplements are fed to potentially improve joint/cartilage health, not bone health. The hoof supplements may improve the hoof, but will not help the ringbone. None of the supplements will make the mare’s ringbone worse. Talk to your veterinarian as to what he/she believes is the underlying case of the ringbone – trauma, conformation, etc. Ask if any shoeing changes will be of benefit.
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Question: We have a paint gelding that has a case of photosensitization that I am dealing with. I have taken him off of alfalfa hay and switched to grass hay for now. Should he be able to go back to alfalfa if this was not the
cause of the condition?
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Alfalfa hay is not likely the cause of the gelding’s photosensitization; therefore, he should be able to be fed alfalfa hay in the future. Does the alfalfa hay have any clover present? Alsike clover has been associated with photosensitization. Also, depending upon where you live, certain other plants can cause secondary photosensitization (liver damaged). These plants are most common in the west. In addition, certain plants may cause primary photosensitization (circulating plant products directly affect the skin without damaging the liver first).
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Question: I have a 20-something (according to his papers-vet said he's closer to 30) Quarter horse gelding that was on the thin side when we bought him 4 years ago. We were told he was a rescue horse and it took a while for the folks we bought him from to put weight on him. He is a gray with large melanomas in
his parotid area, both sides of his neck and some small new nodes appearing behind his elbows. They may just be more apparent because of his weight. We had his teeth floated last year and the vet said he was probably a lot older than his papers show, based on his teeth. His weight has been stable until this spring when the pasture was finally good after a drought, so we had cut back a little on feed. We went from a 12 percent protein to a 10 percent protein pellet. The vet told us last year there wasn't much floating that could be done on his teeth, so I haven't taken him back to recheck his teeth. Just running my fingers along the outside of his molars, they seem to be smooth, with no hooks. However, his upper incisors are worn very short. I've gone now to a scoop twice daily of a 14 percent protein pellet, wet with water to help him chew, with 1/2 scoop of rice bran to add fat and increased calories. I've been careful with deworming, and he has access to 3rd cutting grass hay free choice. He has very loose stools, so we tried an extruded type feed. Although his stools firmed up somewhat, he started to drop weight again. I feel like I'm fighting a losing
battle. Does melanoma influence nutrient utilization in horses like it does in people? I have tried adding 1/2 cup of corn oil to his ration once a day, but it didn't seem to make much difference. He gains weight back in the
lower ribs, but just won't build up in the hind quarters. I'm not riding him since he's earned his retirement.
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At your gelding’s age and with his dental issues, he probably needs to be fed all of his nutritional requirements as a complete feed. This feed will have all the protein, energy, vitamins, minerals and fiber that he requires daily. He needs calories and not protein for weight gain. Theoretically, a 10 percent protein feed should provide all the protein that he requires, but due to potential reduced intestinal absorption in older horses, the senior feeds usually have the protein levels increased somewhat. Also, different types/forms of feed will weight differently for the same volume of feed. (Always feed by weight and not volume.) The extruded feed will likely weighted less than the pelleted feed. Depending upon the scoop that you use, and the feed, he was likely getting about 2 to 4 pounds per scoop. The corn oil will have provided additional calories, but he is likely still not receiving adequate calories depending upon how much hay/pasture he is truly able to eat.
To calculate the amount of complete feed that he needs daily, multiply 2 percent by his weight. (Typically, animals eat about 1.5 to 2 percent of their weight in dry feed per day.) If he should weigh about 1000 pounds in good body condition, he should be eating about 20 pounds of complete feed per day or at least one 50 pound bag of a senior feed every 3 days. Along with the senior feed, I would continue to supplement with the corn oil. Also, continue to allow him access to pasture and the third cutting hay, but do not count on it to provide his nutritional requirements. In addition, I would continue to moisten his feed to reduce the chances of him choking.
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Question: We have 6 horses on 5 acres that are only stalled twice a day for feeding. The horses are healthy and at good weights, with nice coats. They have free access to grass (somewhat limited due to number of horses), salt and minerals. They are fed coastal hay, pellets (Horseman's Edge 12 percent), oats
and Omega Horseshine twice daily. Recently, another horse owner told us that we should switch to another brand of pellets (Seminole Cool & Calm) because our pellets were substandard. It's very confusing trying to compare nutritional content of feeds. Is there a good resource for this, and in the overall feeding scheme, how important is the difference?
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Unfortunately, there is no good source for comparing nutritional content of feeds. I would just use common sense, pick a reputable feed company, and look at my horses. Since your horses sound healthy and in good body condition (not thin or fat), I would continue your current feeding program. Horseman’s Edge (12 percent) is a fine feed unless your horses have nutritionally related health issues. The Seminole Cool and Calm is a low starch feed designed for horses that have a tendency to suffer from Equine Metabolic Syndrome/Insulin Resistance. If you are interested in learning more about equine nutrition, consider taking a short course in equine nutrition offered by someone other than a feed company/feed dealer. Talk to your local veterinarian about what is available in your area or consider My Horse University’s online nutritional course.
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Question: There are a lot of options on the market for probiotics/prebiotics. Ratios can be as confusing as well as the ratio for proper colonies. What should we be looking for? Also, can you give any advice in how to decipher the guaranteed analysis on the labels? (Per pound, per serving?) Can there ever be enough probiotics/prebiotics that occurs naturally, when fed hay year round? Or with pasture? There is also the additive place on hay, but I'm referring to what can occur naturally. Do probiotics really have significant regulation effects on the PH of the gut, if so how dependant? Is daily fed probiotics/prebiotics something beneficial in
research or theory? Is there any research about feeding only in stressful situations? If it is beneficial to be fed daily, are there any negative effects? What if the horse is taken off the daily ration? What other benefits or negative effects can daily fed probiotics/prebiotics have on any equine?
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Currently, the benefits of probiotics are theoretical, as research has not shown any benefit. They are unlikely to cause any harm, but no blinded studies are available to prove efficacy. Although they are used extensively, in a normal horse, on a normal diet, the large intestinal tract has a very stable, healthy microflora.
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Question: We own a 25-year-old Quarter horse mare that we have had for 20 years. She has always been as easy keeper until this summer when she developed problems with diarrhea. Her diet, at the time, was about one pound of Equine Senior feed pellets, good quality grass hay, and 4 to 6 hours of good quality pasture each day. When we noticed a significant weight loss, we had her vet checked and had her teeth floated, although that did not appear to be the problem. We were told to increase her Equine Senior and try to get some weight gain on her before winter. We have had to increase her feed at an extremely slow rate as the diarrhea worsens each time we add too much too fast. At this time we are feeding her four pounds of Equine Senior and have also
added about a pound of plain oats and a flake of alfalfa twice a day. Her weight has picked up some, but she still needs to gain a good 50 to 75 pounds. Our vet is concerned this may be a case of chronic diarrhea and that it might be an uphill battle that we won't be able to win. Is there anything we can give her that will give us the nutrition she needs without causing the diarrhea to worsen?
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As sensitive as your horse’s digestive tract seems, I would be concerned that she may have some underlying intestinal problems. Has your veterinarian done any additional tests along with her physical exam? Is your mare’s blood work normal, especially her total protein/albumin? A glucose absorption test can help determine if her small intestinal tract is functioning normally.
As far as nutritional modifications that may help her gain weight without the diarrhea becoming worse, it will be a trial and error process. Other feedstuffs that you might try are: soaked beet pulp, soaked hay pellets/cubes and some complete feeds other than equine senior. Also, try adding a couple of ounces of corn oil to her senior a day to provide more calories. Make any changes slowly and only one at a time to determine if her digestive tract is tolerating the change.
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Question: My 18-month-old stud colt has developed slobber due to white clover. This started the third week of September. He showed no sign in spring or summer in the same pasture. We stalled for 24 hours and mowed the pasture
problem went a way for three days, now its back. Can this be passed down genetically
to his offspring? Is their any other health issues this can lead too such as dehydration, stomach or breathing issues?
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“Slobbers” is caused by a mold on the clover and is unrelated to the genetics of your stallion. Under certain environmental conditions, usually warm and moist (lots of dew), the mold can develop. Mowing the pasture allows the pasture to dry out and reduces the risk of the mold; however, this may not be totally successful, especially if the pasture is rapidly growing with plenty of moisture present. If the salivation is excessive, dehydration and electrolyte disturbances can occur; therefore, keep the stallion of the pasture anytime symptoms re-appear.
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Question: My horses have at least 4 hours of grazing, 3 to 4 flakes of hay daily and a 1/2 scoop of grain. I feel the grain is over done, however, they are waiting at the barn, starving...they have pasture during that time but they
still leave the pasture to wait at the barn for grain. Is this any indication that they need or want the grain? My vet says they look good, says they are healthy, and that they look better than most around here, claiming most horses are a little "ribby", on the thin side. I give a 12 percent pellet in the summer, and during the winter I give a 10 percent (or less) sweet feed and feed timothy hay morning. I will feed an orchard grass and grass hay during the evenings. Do you think I should cut back to a less protein percent? I am so confused as I was told by a trainer that my horses should not get grain at all. I ride pleasure 3 to 4 times weekly and compete about three times a month. When our other pasture is established I will let them graze more. I still feed the same grain, but I do increase to a full scoop during the winter.
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All horse diets should be composed of as much roughage (hay and pasture) as possible. If you have enough roughage of adequate quality, they can eat 100 percent roughage without any grain. An appropriate trace mineral salt should be given free choice. However, if not enough roughage is available, or the horses are using more calories than the roughage provides, grain will be needed. Always adjust your feeding program to keep your horse at a body condition score (BCS) of about 5/9 (can easily feel ribs, but not see ribs). Since it sounds like your horses are doing fine as confirmed by your veterinarian, I would continue your feeding program.
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Question: Have there been any studies to determine how much an average horse consumes on pasture in an hour. My horses are out on pasture for about 8 hours a day and I'd like to know how many "flakes of hay" they're consuming. The pasture is about 30 acres and has decent grass, so using muzzles and
monitoring safety is almost impossible. If I knew a consumption rate, I could ration pasture time accordingly.
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I’m not aware of any studies that determine how much a horse can consume in 8 hours on pasture. Also, factors can affect the amount consumed, such as what forages are available, and what is the maturity of the forage. Monitoring your horses’ body condition scores (BCS) is the best way to determine if your horses are receiving adequate pasture or if the pasture time should be changed.
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Question: I was given a gorgeous registered 19-year-old Morgan broodmare. She and her 3rd (and last) foal will be weaned sometime mid-Oct. at which point she will be moved to another location. She has a problem with her hind legs that was diagnosed as "DSLD" although she doesn't seem that uncomfortable. Since
I am a "first time owner" I want to give her the best care I can without totally breaking the bank. She is currently on "Demand" and a vitamin supplement. What would you suggest as feed and something to ease her discomfort without filling her full of alot of different supplements/pills, etc., for a 'retired' broodmare with a condition such as this? If I ride her at all, it will be briefly using a bareback pad. She will have lots of pasture to walk in.
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The best thing for your new mare is to keep her at a body condition score of about 5/9 where you can easily feel the ribs, but not see them. Just as in people, excessive weight puts excessive stress on joints, tendons and ligaments. Also, keep the mare’s feet trimmed to prevent excessively long feet increasing stress on her legs. If the mare becomes uncomfortable, consult with your veterinarian to determine if pain medications may help relieve her discomfort. There are no supplements that will slow the progression of the mare’s DSLD.
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Question: I raise Thoroughbreds and have a question about feeding my foals. It is actually a 2 part question. This past spring I had a foal orphaned at a little less than one month of age. I put him on Foal-Lac and followed the
feeding directions on the bucket as far as recommended weights and amounts as he got older. He got both the powdered milk replacer reconstituted with water and the amount of pellets recommended for his age. I also added in the 16 percent protein foal ration and once he was able to be safely turned out, he was out on a good quality grass pasture along with his friend Billy goat during the day and brought back into the stall with alfalfa hay to eat at night. He did great on this diet, but now I am noticing that he is getting some physitis in his ankles. His weight is fantastic and he looks like a picture. He is currently getting one good-sized flake of alfalfa in his stall at night, turned out on pasture during the day, 4 pounds of the 16 percent protein foal ration and 3 cups of the Foal-Lac pellets a day. What should or can I change in his diet to help with his physitis? If I am feeding the 16 percent protein ration as
suggested, is that meant to be fed with alfalfa (they never say what type of hay to be fed with it), or should he be getting grass hay? What about the Foal-Lac pellets? I am feeding him less than they recommend on the label both of the grain ration and of the pellets for his age, he is now 6 months old. His weight is very good and I don't want him gaining any more, but I am concerned about the physitis. My local vets aren't really Thoroughbred people and say to just give him grass hay with no grain and that the problem will solve itself, but I don't think that is right either. The second part of my question regards my other two foals and their continuing diet. I had to wean one of them early because of having to keep her stalled for a lengthy period of time to try to correct a leg that had a tendency to want to turn out. I
couldn't confine her mother for that long since the mare tends to colic if confined to a stall for long periods of time. Since I had to wean the one foal, I decided to wean the other at the same time in order to make the
process easier. The filly was 3-months-old and the colt was 3.5-months-old at time of weaning. Since my orphan was doing so well on his orphan rations, I decided to put the other two on the same ration since I had weaned them sooner. Their weight is great, they came through the weaning well, but I am wondering how long they should be on the 16 percent protein ration (the Foal-Lac bucket only says 6 to 12 months of age). When I do take them off of the 16 percent ration, I have two choices from the local feed mill I use. One is a 14 percent protein ration meant to
be fed with a primarily grass diet and the other is a 13 percent ratio, balanced mineral wise and meant to be fed with a primarily alfalfa diet. The main difference in the two is that the calcium content is higher in the ration
meant to be fed with grass and the phosphorus content is higher in the grain
to be fed with alfalfa. Since weaning the foals, I am not sure which they are getting more of, grass or alfalfa, so am not sure which grain ration to feed? My thought would be that it would be better to feed the grass hay calculated grain to be sure the calcium is higher than the phosphorus, but I don't know if this is the correct thinking. The colt is now five months old and getting four pounds of the 16 percent protein ration and 4 cups of the Foal-Lac pelets a day (he is a very tall, lanky colt) and the filly, 4.5 months of age, is getting 3 pounds of 16 percent and 4 cups of Foal-Lac pellets a day, both with the above mentioned daily turnout and flake of alfalfa. To sum up, what can or should I do to change my orphan foal's diet to help his physitis? How long should I continue with the 16 percent protein ration grain, and which grain should I be feeding when I do take the 3 of them off of the 16 percent ration since I don't know for sure which they are eating
more of--grass during the day at pasture or alfalfa at night in their stalls.
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It is important to keep the ration balanced for young growing animals. The protein should be about 14 to 16 percent, energy should be adequate, but not excessive and the calcium/phosphorus ratio should be about 2:1 with both minerals being adequate. Diet changes should be made gradually to prevent a sudden change in growth rate/gain. When the growth rate changes suddenly, foals are more prone to developing Developmental Orthopedic Disease (DOD). Foals of this age will eat about 2.5 percent of their body weight per day.
Simply taking all the grain and pellets away and feeding only grass hay will likely not provide the foals with adequate protein, energy, calcium and phosphorus. It is important to work with a veterinarian/nutritionist that is accustomed to balancing rations for young growing foals at risk of DOD. Without forage testing results and having the guaranteed analysis of your protein pellets, it is impossible to give you specific feeding recommendations. If you have trouble finding a nutritionist/veterinarian, contact your nearest university with an animal science or veterinary medicine college.
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Question: Two months ago, I bought a 2-year-old Quarter horse gelding from a ranch in Texas where he was born and raised. I had him shipped to a stable in North Georgia where I now live. While in Texas, he was being fed one flake/twice a day of pure alfalfa hay and twice a day, one scoop of crimped oats with one cup of Purina Horseman's Edge sweet feed mixed in it. He looked absolutely beautiful! He is a huge Quarter horse, 16.2 hands. He has a Thoroughbred bloodline starting back in the fifth generation. When he arrived in Georgia, everyone wanted to give me his or her two-cents (opinions) about what to feed him. My sister raises and trains Thoroughbreds and gives them alfalfa and sweet feed here in Georgia. The owner of the
barn where I keep my gelding feeds bermuda hay and sweet feed. A flake of this hay is VERY light and must weigh only a pound. The owner of the barn said that she will feed my gelding a half scoop of sweet feed twice a day morning and night and give him two flakes of hay twice a day morning and night. All of the horses are put out to pasture (most of the area is dirt) in the morning after they eat their grain in their stalls. The pasture is where the hay is fed to the horses. Then at night they get their hay ration and grain in their stalls. I was very upset about this. What can you do when the facility isn't yours? My gelding was loosing weight FAST. Hay in this part of the country is garbage! I searched and searched and finally found a place that sells beautiful alfalfa compacted bales from Michigan. One flake weighs about 4 pounds (which I can only feed him at night in his stall). I am also feeding him one full scoop twice a day of Purina's Strategy Professional Formula pelleted horse feed. Because of the Georgia heat, he was sweating sooooo much and not drinking enough water. I have him on a very good Electrolyte product and corn oil for his coat. I am glad to say that he is looking a lot better! BUT, I am freaking out because his spine is still sticking out from his withers to his tailbone! He did not have this problem when he was in Texas.
My question is, am I feeding him enough and what can I do to fill in his back? I was considering putting him on some kind of "muscle" developing product.
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Your horse needs to eat about 2 percent of his body weight per day with a maximum of 1 percent being grain/concentrate (Strategy) per day. However, all diets should include as much forage as possible. Since your gelding is likely at least a 1000 pounds and still growing/filling out, he needs to eat at least 20 pounds of feed per day. Also, he sounds like he is somewhat under weight from initially not getting enough to eat (both pounds and quality of feed); therefore, he should be receiving more calories (feed) per day. The corn oil that you are giving him will provide additional calories, as well as improving the quality of his coat. The 2 scoops of Strategy should be about 6 pounds if the scoops are the standard plastic scoops. Therefore, he should be fed at least 14 pounds of hay; preferably hay should be fed free choice. Although he is a 2-year-old and his growth plates are mostly closed, try to keep his calcium/phosphorus ratio at no more than 3:1. Also, have him gain weight slowly to allow his bones, muscles and tendons time to adapt to the weight gain and possibly a growth spurt. The addition of the alfalfa hay and Strategy will provide more than enough protein for muscle development. As the gelding’s BCS reaches about 5/9, modify his diet to maintain this BCS.
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Question: I currently have in my care 16 horses. Four of which range in the 26 to 31 years of age. At this time, they are on good pasture and look great. My concern is the 28-year-old Thoroughbred that has only his front teeth and two molars on the top. He gets two quarts of high-quality extruded senior feed morning and afternoon, some chopped hay with molasses and a little 2nd cutting timothy, mixed grass hay. He loves the 2nd cutting but I find dozens of quids in his stall because he
just doesn't have the chewing capacity anymore. He eats some of the hi-fiber chopped hay, but I'm afraid it's not enough to maintain his weight this winter. He's 16'1 sound, healthy and will be blanketed when cold weather hits. They are all turned out during the day as long as the winter weather
will permit here in central NY. My question is, how much is too much senior feed to give him? I feel what I am feeding him now gives him the nutrition he needs daily, so could I put him on a high fat supplement just to give him
the additional calories he may need to keep his weight in a good range? I've looked into a supplement called Cool Calories 100 that is 99 percent fat. I would start him out very gradual, so as not to upset his digestion and just keep a close eye on him. Any suggestions or insights you may have for me would be greatly appreciated. We all love these old guys and know that it's easier to try to keep the weight on them at this age than to try and get them to gain it back.
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When feeding a complete feed or a senior feed, the feed can be fed as the total diet. Therefore, if your gelding weighs about 1000 pounds and should consume about two percent of its body weight per day, this would be about 20 pounds of senior feed a day. A 50 pound bag would be fed about every 3 days. If additional calories are needed to maintain body weight, a fat supplement can be added to the senior. Also, if he can consume some of the chopped hay, this will allow you to reduce the amount of senior feed required. Other feeds that you might use are soaked beet pulp, and soaked hay cubes. Modify his diet as needed to maintain him at a BCS of at least 4.5-5/9.
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Question: Hay is in short supply and expensive this year. To offset the cost and keep the feeding program simple, I am choosing to feed grass hay and add alfalfa pellets to my feeding program. My Quarter horses usually get 1/2
grass,1/2 alfalfa hay and require only grain to get their minerals in them. Alfalfa pellets are available and I suspect cheaper than alfalfa hay. My question is, what dry weight of alfalfa pellets equals a pound of alfalfa
hay? I am giving 10 pounds of grass hay and would like to give the equivalent of five pounds of alfalfa hay in pellets.
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If you are feeding five pounds of alfalfa hay, the equivalent is five pounds of alfalfa pellets. The only difference is the volume. The pellets are denser and will occupy a smaller volume than the hay. Since your horse may eat the pellets quickly, it may start chewing on fences and stalls due to boredom. Also, if the pellets are eaten quickly, choke may be of concern. Adding water to the pellets or big rocks to the feed dish will slow the rate of eating.
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Question: I have a 4-year-old mare that is getting ready to start her show career. I was wondering about giving her a joint supplement now to help her out now and for the future.
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This would be the ideal time to start joint supplements – at the start of her career, rather than when a problem occurs. Theoretically, Glucosamine and Chondroitin are better at keeping the cartilage healthy, rather than helping to repair damage once it has occurred.
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Question: Can a change in feed promote an inflammatory reaction and swelling
of lymph glands? My 27-year-old Arabian gelding began exhibiting signs of lethargy and swelling on and between his cheeks in the lymph nodes. There is no mucus discharge and we are isolated from all contact with other horses (the closest are 1/4 mile away and free of Strangles.) We have not exposed
our horses to contact with other horses in 3 years, and the other horses do not exhibit Strangles symptoms. That said, we recently had three changes in food over the last four days.
Four days ago, the gelding in question, broke into his grain bin and consumed several days worth of Equine Senior. He is on an Equine Senior diet in the first place. He also had been turned out on pasture for several hours prior. Two days prior to that, he had been turned out (after 2 days of strict dieting)
on a dry lot with one weedy corner (tumbleweed, kosha, some grass, including
green cheat grass.) One day ago we began feeding from this year's hay cutting; a 4th cutting orchard grass. The hay sat for one week before baling.
My vet is coming out as soon as possible, but from our phone conversation thinks that either my gelding does have Strangles or a cheat grass abscess. I can't see how lethargy would accompany a cheat grass abscess or how we could possibly have Strangles when we have not been exposed to other horses or even people with horses. We are pretty isolated here. Could this be a
nutrition issue?
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Your horse’s condition does not sound like a nutritional issue. Even if your horse had an allergic reaction to something that he ate, he should not be lethargic. Your veterinarian will be able to determine if the swelling in the area of his cheeks is due to lymph node swelling or abscessation or due to edema from low blood protein from another underlying condition.
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Question: My 17-year-old Lipizzan mare was moved to a new barn in August 2007 where she colicked after about 3 weeks of living there, resulting in full surgery to clear the impaction at the cecum. She eventually recovered but
has trouble digesting hay fully. The vet recommended Senior Equine feed pellets to supplement her diet. January through July she gradually back to regular riding, which is dressage first level. She seemed relatively fine except for loose manure.
In July 2008, she developed mild lameness in her right hind and I made the decision to add glucosamine. By the end of July, she experienced dramatic weight loss, spine area lost all fat, girth area billets at top hole both sides of saddle, healing of insect bites extremely slow, girth sores that had developed were worsening and weird scabs on fetlocks developed. Her blood tests came back normal, but low albumen levels were typical of post-colic surgery results. The veterinarian (Canada) is waiting for the Cushing's blood test cross-border license of
institution in US to be renewed before being able to send blood test to the US. Could the CortaFlex glucosamine have pushed her over the edge into a Cushing's response? If I feed her ground Chase Tree Berry (Vitex Agnus Castus) will that harm her before blood test can be run? It's possible the test will have
to wait another week or two before the license is back in place. I'm afraid of laminitis developing before the bloodtest can confirm Cushing's. Should I have her feed changed to hay from Tri-Forage Horsehae? Should I start giving Chaste Tree Berry, which this site says cures Cushing's?
Possible first trigger in 2005 may have occurred when the mare had a huge allergic reaction to multiple combined vaccinations, which caused a huge udder, hives all over the body and took 3 to 4 weeks to begin to subside. My veterinarian said he had never seen this reaction before.
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The low protein/albumin in July 2008 should not be related to her colic surgery almost a year earlier. With the low albumin and dramatic weight loss at the end of July, I would be concerned about some other underlying disease condition. The glucosamine should not be related to either the low albumin or weight loss. Even Cushing’s doesn’t typically cause sudden severe weight loss; however, the slow healing of her skin conditions may be related to Cushing’s disease. If her attitude and appetite have remained normal, I would rule out problems with her teeth or changes in the quality/amount of her feed (hay and possibly grain). As for changing her hay, first have your current hay analyzed for its nutritional content. Ask your veterinarian what labs he would recommend for testing your hay. Also, whether feeding Chase Tree Berry will be of benefit is controversial. There are testimonials of its benefit in treating Cushing’s; however, a research study did not show any improvement in horses treated with Chase Tree Berry. If you are still waiting to have your mare’s Cushing’s tests run and she has potential clinical signs of Cushing’s, consider having your veterinarian start her on pergolide while waiting for test results.
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Question: I have read that Omega 3 with DHA and EPA has many health benefits for horses. It is said to improve joints and associated pain and be good for the skin. I had also heard that Omega 3 was not as good as Omega 6 because horses do not normally ingest Omega 3 in their diet. Can you help me to understand if there are benefits to Omega 3 with EPA and DHA?
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Currently, research evidence exists that omega 3 fatty acids will be absorbed by horses when added to the diet. Also, there is evidence that the omega 3’s are of benefit in humans. However, currently there is only testimonial/personnal opinion evidence of their benefit to horses.
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Question: I run a large boarding facility and have a running battle with one boarder who insists on overfeeding her horses. She adamantly stated to me "Horses cannot founder on hay". Both of her horses have been scored as 7 and 9 on the Hennecke Scale. Both are large Warmbloods and should not be overweight as it will also compromise their joints and longevity of those leg joints. Help me here. Is she correct to state that horses cannot founder on hay alone? I was under
the distinct understanding that they can. I await your scientific answer.
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You are correct. Horses can founder if provided excessive calories, either in the form of hay or pasture. This is especially true for horses that have a tendency to be prone to Insulin Resistance/Equine Metabolic Syndrome. Hay is most likely to cause a problem is excellent second or third cutting where the protein and energy content is likely very high. However, the only true way to determine the quality of hay is by having the hay tested for its nutritional content, as even some first cutting hay can provide excessive calories when fed free choice. Also, if a horse develops laminitis/founder from any cause, being overweight will make the founder more severe with a poorer prognosis.
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Question: My 31-year-old Quarter Horse (Danny) is very hard to keep weight on and last winter lost quite a bit. We gradually changed his feeding program in February and are currently feeding 4.5 pounds TC Senior 3x daily (it is soaked in water to help him eat it) and he is also supplemented twice daily with Accel by Vitaflex and Probios probiotic. Danny was receiving soaked alfalfa cubes 3x daily but refused them when the grass came up. He is on a rotational deworming program. At Danny's last dental visit (in April), we were told he has almost no grinding surface left. I wanted to know if you would recommend adding a fat supplement (I was thinking of Amplify by Purina) to his meals and I was going to try to get him back on alfalfa cubes. He has put weight on during the spring and summer and currently he has a very thin fat layer over his ribs, but are discernable. I am concerned that we are going to lose ground with him as the weather grows cold.
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Hopefully, Danny will go back to eating his hay cubes when the grass becomes scarce. Also, if he refuses to eat the hay cubes, but will eat more senior, additional senior will provide more calories. Horses typically need to eat 1.5 to 2.0 percent of their body weight to maintain body condition. If he should weigh about 1000 pounds, he should be eating about 15 to 20 pounds of feed per day. Also, the fat supplement would be a good idea to assist in weight gain while the weather is still warm. In addition, when the weather turns for the worse, a good weatherproof blanket will be important, but take the blanket off at least once a week to assess Danny’s body condition.
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Question: My AQHA gelding has begun grunting when he has a bowel movement. I have recently (within a week) changed barns and the feeding schedule is different by about two hours. He is eating hay and oats mornings and evenings with a bit of sweet feed in the evenings. I can hear his stomach growling and his stools are very normal. Do I need to worry?
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At this time, I would not worry, but I would continue to be very observant. A two-hour change in feeding, if the feed is the same, should not be significant. However, continue to closely monitor both fecal consistency and fecal amount. Often when a horse is moved to a new barn, water consumption may decrease due to a change in taste. This decrease in water intake may set up the gelding for an impaction.
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Question: My question is relative to drinking water. My only option to water my horses is straight from a well -- no filter, no chlorine. It doesn't smell or taste particularly good -- smells of sulphur. Is it safe? Should I test it? I've seen horses drink out of some pretty skanky ponds, so I'm thinking this can't be worse.
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The most common concern with drinking water that has a high sulfur content/smell is decreased water consumption. If your horses do not consume adequate water, they are at a greater rise of developing impaction colic. If their water consumption is appropriate, they should be fine. Rarely, sulfur levels in the diet may be higher than desired and combined with high levels in the water be of concern. If this is a possibility, have your well water checked for sulfur levels.
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Question: My 24-year-old gelding has been maintaining a body condition score of 5-6/9 for the past several years and has recently gained weight to be more of a 6-7 BCS due to diet changes described below. He has PPID and is on one mg pergolide daily. He is not ridden, although he is active in a large (poor) pasture and is kept in a large dry lot when the grass is growing. He had about a year and a half of loose, cow manure-like stools for which all parasite tests were negative, water was changed from well to city, his dental care was attended to and his blood chemistry and counts remained stable. He would occasionally have long (6 inch) hay in his manure and when I changed him from mixed grass hay (orchard/fescue) to orchard with slight amount of alfalfa, it helped the loose manure, but not totally. He was also on approximately two pounds of soaked beet pulp shreds (usually without molasses), two cups rice bran pellets and ¼ lb chopped timothy with molasses (for palatability). Beet pulp shreds became difficult to get and I changed to Purina Equine Senior feed and his loose manure stopped completely. (I believe the beet pulp shreds were causing the loose stool). However, happy as I am to not have him with loose stool, since the change in diet, I have had a difficult time keeping his weight controlled. He receives approximately one pound of Purina Equine Senior daily with a little timothy/molasses for bulk. He is given approximately one to 1 ½ percent body weight in hay and limited grazing on poor pasture. I am concerned about his weight gain and also that he is not receiving enough nutrition. Any advice for weight control and nutrition supplementation would be appreciated.
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Since his BCS is 6-7/9, I would eliminate the rice bran as it is primarily used as a fat (calorie) source and your gelding needs to decrease his calorie intake. If the elimination of the rice bran does not result in a weight loss after a couple of months, I would consider cutting his hay consumption to about one to 1 1/4 percent of his body weight. With the hay, pasture and equine senior, plus trace mineral salt; his dietary requirements should be adequately met.
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Question: My question is for my gelded donkey (550 pounds). I have cut him down to 2.5 hours/day on pasture and one pound of grass hay in the evening. His large crest is still bothersome and I don't know what more to do to get rid of his excess fatty weight. He also has fat pads along the top of his body and a "bubble butt". I've never seen anything like it. It's not like he's fat all over. He gets no grain or alfalfa hay. What do you suggest I do to help him?
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There are two ways to increase weight loss: cut calorie intake and/or increase calorie use. If your gelding is sound, consider increasing his exercise program. Does he ride or drive? Also, will the gelding tolerate a grazing muzzle? If he will, he may be left on pasture longer than the 2.5 hours and still be eating less than the 2.5 hours without the muzzle while getting more exercise moving around the pasture. Also, with weight loss, the gelding will lose the fat pads over the back and butt; however, his neck, although it will soften, will remain large. Remember that the weight loss should be slow over many months to a year to prevent fatty liver concerns.
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Question: I bought grass/red clover mix hay from my usual source, a very experienced hay farmer in the area. It was second cutting this year and was baled around August 7th of this year. I went on a trail-riding trip this week and took some of the hay. My horses started drooling very heavily a few hours after eating the hay. Just to make sure it was the hay, my friend fed some to her horse and he started drooling also. I know that white clover will cause drooling, but I've never had this problem with red clover mix hay. I know (maybe) the drooling and salivating are more an annoying, messy problem with the horses (I own no pregnant mares), than a threat to their health. I really don't want the laborious task of hauling the hay back to the farmer to trade for another cutting. Would it be a health risk to feed it to my horses this coming winter at home, maybe mixing it with some other hay that I purchased from the first cutting?
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The problem is caused by a mold (Rhizoctonia leguminicola) on the clover, producing an alkaloid called Slaframine and not the clover itself. Since the problem is caused by a mold, most clovers can be affected. Also, although the slaframine will decrease with time, it has been found to be present in hay after 10 months of storage. Ideally, the hay should be returned to the farmer and replaced. Diluting the hay may help, especially if it can be stored for sometime before feeding, but remember that the excess salivation will lead to both water and electrolyte loss, which may make the horses more prone to dehydration and impaction colics, especially in the winter when water consumption is a concern normally.
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Question: I have an older mare that has developed a moderately severe case of diarrhea. She is on pasture and Bermuda hay and is fed about 10 pounds of Purina Equine Senior twice each day. She suffered a similar condition early this year, which cleared up after about 3 weeks, but this does not seem to be resolving. My vet basically said he has no idea what is wrong with her and prescribed a probiotic paste, which had no effect. I have tried various combinations of no pasture, switching to oats, etc. When I take her off the senior feed, she drops weight. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Has your veterinarian done a complete physical examination of your mare, including blood work and a fecal exam? Parasites are always a concern that needs to be ruled out. Also, bloodwork and possibly some absorption tests will determine if her intestinal tract is functioning correctly. Is there a possibility that she may be ingesting excessive amounts of sand? Culture her feces for Salmonella, as chronic salmonellosis can cause a chronic diarrhea. Finally, if your veterinarian has performed all the testing possible at his practice and the problem still is undiagnosed; consider referral to a practice with more diagnostic capabilities and someone trained in internal medicine.
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Question: Recently, a horse owner told me his friend's horse passed and entrolith the size of a baseball. He explained the owner only fed alfalfa, the horse was twelve years old and was a trail horse. He showed colic symptoms throughout the day and when they went in the stall they noticed the entrolith in his manure. The horse is fine now and they never called a vet. My questions are some horses predisposed to this, does feed create this problem and how do you check for entroliths?
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Entroliths can occur in any horse, but are more common in horses that are from the southwest and fed alfalfa hay. The problem is often diagnosed at colic surgery or necropsy. However, in areas where entroliths are common, they may be diagnosed with radiographic examination of the abdomen. This is only possible at a large equine hospital, as the radiographic equipment needed to visualize the abdomen in a horse is very expensive.
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Question: I am writing a research essay on the difference between hay and grain versus complete feed. Can you give me your opinion on how you feel about the two, or which you think gives the horse a more accurate source of nutrition?
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Both can provide the horse with a balanced diet. Whether hay and grain or a complete feed is fed depends on many factors, such as age, health status, dentition, availability of feeds in an area, feed storage availability, etc. One major problem feeding only a complete feed to a young, healthy horse is that it can consume the calories needed in a very short time and then be bored and start eating the barn and the fences. Also, if large amounts of grain or complete feed are fed at one time to a horse that eats quickly, the horse may choke on the feed. On the other hand, if a horse has heaves, complete feeds dramatically minimize the dust and promote a healthier respiratory environment.
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Question: I have an 8-year-old AQHA mare. When I bought her 3 1/2 years ago, I made a decision to feed her what I considered to be the best (orchard 3x/day + Platinum Performance). Recently, the mare has been diagnosed with mild dejenerative joint disease (DJD) of the coffin bone (palmar reagion, bilateral). Should I change my feeding program in any way?
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Your feeding program is fine as long as the mare has a BCS of about 5-6/9. If she is heavier, reducing her weight will help just as in people.
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Question: Would it be possible for you to answer this question in regards to the potential risk/hazards of birds nesting on the horse hay?
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The main concern would be the spread of Salmonella. Also, if the birds are nesting on the hay, they may attract carnivores and omnivores in to the hay storage area and potentially increase the risk of EPM if you are in an area that has opossums.
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Question: I have tried to determine what is nutritionally best for my two Quarter horse mares. The more I read, the more confused I become. I have had the mares for approximately five years, and I never had horses before. They are strictly pleasure/trail horses. They are very easy keepers with a body condition of 6.5. Their primary source of food is pasture (mixed grass/Bermuda) in the summer and Bermuda hay in the winter. They receive biotin, flax, equine minerals, small amount of corn oil, and glucosamine supplement mixed with 3/4 cup sweet feed twice daily. They have free access to salt bricks. They look good with no health issues. The biotin has made a tremendous difference in the hoof wall of the 13-year-old mare. They are on a daily dewormer with rotation between Quest plus and Equimax for tapeworms and bots. I came up with this formula based on what I had read. I don't want them to be lacking nutritionally because of my ignorance. Do you have any recommendations; does their diet appear balanced to meet their needs?
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Since the mares are doing well, I would not change your diet. However, do not let them gain any more weight. If they were gaining weight, I would eliminate the corn oil; however, if they begin to lose weight, the corn oil may be increased. Ideally, keep their BCS between 5-6/9. As for your deworming program, I would do a fecal examination at least once a year to determine that your program is working. Parasite resistance is becoming a major concern.
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Question: My 19-year-old dressage horse (1445 lbs) is being treated for allergies recently diagnosed at OVC Guelph. Testing results include allergies to insects, alfalfa, pine, dust, wool, etc.! There is a possibility that the allergies were exacerbated by his last flu shot which, coincided 8 days later with the outbreak in June to present.
My horse will start hyposensitization injections in the next two weeks to treat allergies. His history includes only two prior episodes of allergies within 5 years, no prior history and both in winter months versus summer.
Since June/08, he has been treated for outbreaks with IM shots of Dex, antihistamines and sulfa antibiotics for skin lesions as required. He is still receiving Dex injections every 4-5 days along with antihistamines. I would like to slowly get back to his regular work schedule (5-6 days of riding/45 minutes).
My horse has been on very little grain due to little work this summer. My concern is his immune system and loss of weight/muscle. I am currently feeding 1/2 cup oats, 1/2 cup Phase 4 (Kentucky Equine Diet) and 2 cups beet pulp (to mask anti-histamines) twice a day. He also receives supplements: 1) glucosamine and 2) biotin/mineral mix (Super Equine Diet).
He is a Trakener and is a hot horse by nature. He will not eat hay cubes and we are trying to get alfafa free hay (very difficult!). He is currently eating first cut hay. Can you please recommend a feed program including rations for complete nutrition and a good supplement for boosting his immune system?
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I would try to keep the ration as simple as possible and work closely with your dermatologist. Follow their recommendations as to feed changes and the time frame for feed changes. Try very hard to feed this horse primarily free-choice grass hay, as this should help both the allergies and the horse’s tendency to be hot (less calories from simple carbohydrates). If extra calories were needed with work, I would use fat supplementation as much as possible. The beet pulp can be used as a vehicle for fat supplementation. Adding the Omega 3 fatty acid to the diet may be beneficial, but consult with your gelding’s dermatologist first.
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Question: Can a horse be allergic to grass or weeds that would cause him to choke when he eats his grain? I have a 17-year-old Canadian gelding that has choked twice; Aug 18th for 2.5 hours and Sept 8th for one hour. Both times were right after eating his afternoon grain (1.5 cup of pellets and 1 cup of grain). We moved to this new stable on Aug 1st. The only thing that has changed is that my horse only gets turned out into a grass/weedy paddock on sunny days, the rest of the time he is in a dirt paddock and he gets hay three times a day. At the previous stable, he was turned out 24/7 on grass/weedy paddock with round bales of hay. I know that pellets are a known cause for choke in horses and I removed them from his diet after the 2nd choking episode. I want to know if any grass/weeds could be causing an allergic swelling in his throat that cause him to choke? Perhaps there is something different at this new stable that he did not have access to eat at the previous stable? I am afraid he will choke again. The 1st time even though it lasted longer he was back to normal the next day. The 2nd time it lasted only an hour but it took him three to four days to eat and act normal again.
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The weeds should not cause an allergic reaction that has made him choke. If he is being fed his grain and pellets before his evening hay, he may be eating very fast and not chewing/softening the feed appropriately. Also, since he is at a new barn and does not have free choice hay, he may be afraid that the other horses will eat his feed if he does not eat quickly. In addition, if he caused some damage to his esophagus with the first choke, choking again is more likely. The second choke may have also caused damage to the esophagus, especially since it took him several days to recover. Evaluation of his esophagus, endoscopically, may be warranted to determine what is the best feeding program for the next month to allow his esophagus to heal and if any permanent damage was done.
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Question: I have an older mare that I have to move to a new barn. They only feed grain once a day. She currently gets fice pounds of Cadence by Buckeye in two feedings. Can I feed that much in one feeding? She will also have access to free-choice alfalfa all day, which I've heard isn't ideal for older horses. Currently, she is getting about 14 pounds of grass hay spread out into three smaller feedings. How do I help her safely transition to the alfalfa hay and what impact could the alfalfa have on her grain ration/ nutritional needs?
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I’m not as worried about her change to the alfalfa hay as I am to the fact she would get 10 pounds of concentrate (Cadence) at a feeding. If her liver and kidneys are healthy, the extra protein and calcium of the alfalfa hay should not be a concern. With the hay, if possible, try to take at least a few days to a week to switch her to the new alfalfa hay. (Can you buy a couple of grass hay bales to take to the new barn?) As for the concentrate (Cadence), feeding more than four to five pounds per feeding greatly increases the chances of starch being spilled into the caecum and not being totally digested in the small intestinal tract. This could lead to fermentation alterations, gas production and colic.
What solutions may be available: Since she will be on free choice hay, she may not need to eat more than five pounds of Cadence per day. If she needs the extra calories, is there any possibility that you or someone else could give her an additional feeding daily? Another option is to provide some of her needed calories as fat, either with a commercial product or vegetable oil. Finally, her concentrate may be replaced either completely or at least by ½ with a complete feed that she could be given once daily.
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Question: I have a 7-year-old 14.1H Pinto pony of unknown breeding. I ride about six days a week, and hope to participate in limited distance riding. We ride about three to six miles a day, mostly trotting. I've been tweaking his diet and he's on Equine Adult, three pounds twice a day, Enrich 32, one pound twice a day, Farnum Vita plus per label directions and Cosequin per label directions. I can see ribs, but otherwise he's finally starting to put on a little muscle in his legs and shoulders. He's turned out, all day on grass pasture and gets about four flakes of hay a day. I'd welcome any suggestions to improve his diet.
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Your current diet should provide all the protein, minerals and vitamins that your gelding needs. However, if his body condition score (BCS) is less than 4.5/9 then he needs to gain more weight. Since you can visualize his ribs, his BCS is less than5/9. To add more calories to his diet, a fat source can be used. This can be a commercial fat supplement, as all the major feed companies have this type of product or it can be a vegetable oil, such as corn oil added to the diet. If you are using a commercial fat supplement, follow the directions given. If you are using a vegetable oil, give ¼ cup (two ounces) twice daily with his Equine Adult and Enrich. (It is important to start slowly so he doesn’t refuse the feed or develop loose manure.) If additional calories are still needed, after a couple of weeks, the vegetable oil can be increased to ½ cup twice daily. Also, if he is consuming all the hay that you feed, consider providing hay free-choice or increasing his equine adult.
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Question: I am wondering what would be the best and simplest source of Calcium to add to the diet of a 16H late teen gelding on 24 hour turnout and very light duty work. He is a Thoroughbred-type build, with soundness issues from arthritis. He gets 20 pounds of grass hay, two cups of beet pulp, Recovery
glucosamine/chondritin supplement, minerals and I would like to add one cup of rice bran
but I'm concerned regarding calcium/phosphorous imbalance. If I add alfalfa hay or alfalfa pellets, what quantity do I need to add?
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Do you want to add rice bran for its fat content as the gelding needs to gain more weight? If the gelding is not a picky eater, you can easily just add fat to his diet with a vegetable oil (corn oil or coco-soy) added to his soaked beet pulp. In addition, there are many other commercial sources of fat available to the horse owner now. Finally, most sources of beet pulp now marketed for the equine industry are balanced in regard to Calcium and Phosphorus. If you still desire to feed rice bran, I would locate a product that is balanced.
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Question: I live in Michigan and have a 20-year-old ApHC mare that is currently on a diet that consists of: approx two pounds of 50/50 timothy/alfalfa hay cubes (dry weight) soaked in 2.5 gallons of water given twice a day and pasture. She is a very easy keeper (although tested neg. for IR, Cushings and EMS) and her weight is good (approx 5 BCS). Supplement-wise she gets: one ounce of Accell Lifetime, one ounce of cosequin ASU, 250 pound dose of gastrogard and one tube of succeed daily along with one ounce of salt three times a day. Her selenium/vitamin E levels are tested yearly and appear to be normal. She is ridden five times per week at a W/T for her GI motility and is on about 14 hours of turnout/day. This winter she will have to be put into a herd with other horses (for shelter and heated water) that will give her free-choice access to baled hay
(75 timothy/25 alfalfa) in addition to her normal food.
I am wondering if:
1). Though she is an easy keeper and doesn't need calories, does she still get the necessary nutrients from this diet?
2). A horse at our barn tested very low for Vitamin A. I had never heard of testing for this and was wondering if you think I should be concerned and test her?
3). With winter approaching, if her weight drops, what do you think is the best way to add calories to her diet? With increased hay cubes, something "soakable" for the water benefit (beet pulp, bran) or a pelleted feed, etc?
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1). The fresh forage/pasture, hay cubes and trace mineral salt with selenium should provide her with adequate nutrition regarding protein, energy, vitamins, and minerals. The fact that her BCS is currently 5/9 and her Vitamin E and Selenium are normal is a good indication that she is receiving adequate nutrition.
2). Her Vitamin A status should be satisfactory as she has been on fresh pasture and Vitamin A is present in green, fresh forage. Also, Vitamin A is normally stored in the liver for months and provides a source of Vitamin A during the winter when fresh forage is not available. However, Vitamin A can be easily supplemented during the winter if you are concerned or you can test her to determine her Vitamin A status. Was the horse that tested low on pasture with plenty of fresh forage available? If he was, I would consult with the lab and potentially recheck his status. In Michigan, it is very rare to find a Vitamin A deficient horse that has access to adequate pasture.
3). If she needs additional calories during the winter, all the options that you listed (increased hay cubes, beet pulp – both soakable for the water benefit, or a pelleted complete feed) will provide added calories and adequate dietary fiber, plus you can add some vegetable oil or commercial fat supplement to her diet. I would not use bran, as the other options will provide more calories on a volume basis and have a good calcium/phosphorus ratio.
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Question: I have a sedentary (out to pasture only) 23-year-old Thoroughbred that seems to colic once a year now vs. never before. He grazes on grass and hay and in the morning and afternoon, we feed him Nutrena's XTM (12 cups at each feeding, plus some vegetable oil and a little salt sprinkled on top). It is very difficult keeping weight on him since he is about 17 hands tall. What is causing this and what can I do to help him in terms of preventive measures?
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Without an extensive review of all the factors potentially contributing to the once a year signs of colic and a good physical examination, it will be impossible to determine the cause. However, since the gelding’s weight is hard to maintain, a few common things need to be ruled out. First, are his teeth still capable of chewing forage? Is his digestive tract normal? Older horses may develop malabsorption problems and despite consuming what appears to be adequate calories, do not maintain their weight. Work closely with your veterinarian to try and determine what your gelding’s concerns may be.
Nutritionally, a horse needs to consume about two percent of its body weight per day. If your horse has a normal intestinal tract and is about 17 hands, he should probably be eating about 24 to 30 pounds of feed per day. It appears that you are feeding about 12 pounds of Nutrena’s XTN a day and I would not increase this amount as XTN has a fiber content of only 10 percent and further increasing the XTN may lead to excessive carbohydrates entering the caecum and fermentation problems in the large intestinal tract. As you have not stated the amount of oil being currently added to the XTN, a ½ cup of oil can be added to each feeding (if currently feeding less than this, slowly increase the amount over a few weeks). The remaining 12 to 18 pounds of feed should be roughage (hay and pasture) if the gelding’s teeth are reasonably functional. If dental issues exist, the gelding can be provided his roughage as soaked hay cubes and possibly some soaked beet pulp or he can be totally switched to a senior feed (about ½ bag or 25 pounds per day).
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Question: We feed our horse's whole oats with a mineral and vitamin supplement added. Do we need to add fat of any kind or anything else? They are out on pasture for at least eight hours, and we feed oats twice a day with a flake of hay in the afternoon. They seem to be doing fine. We started this last October since my main objective was to rid their diet of all sugar. We only feed carrots and apples as treats. They all look good, yet if I am doing this wrong, could it show up later in some health issues? Is there something you think we should add to their diet? Thank you for your reply!
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If your horses are healthy and have a body condition score (BCS) of about 5 to 6/9, continue your current diet. Forage and oats has been the traditional horse diet for generations. There is no need to feed a fat supplement unless a horse needs to gain weight or is a horse suffering from some of the muscle disorders such as Polysaccharide Storage Disorder (PSSM). As for ridding the diet of all sugar, it is nearly impossible as most feeds contain some non-structural carbohydrates (sugars). What is needed is to keep your horses in an appropriate BCS utilizing both diet and exercise considerations.
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Question: I have a 9-year-old Arabian gelding that was overweight when I purchased him almost two months ago. I feed him a timothy grass mix hay (four flakes per day) and no grain until the weather turns cold. He is slowly losing his cresty neck, but am I feeding him enough,(ie. nutrition wise) or should he be on grain as well? He is very nervous and spooky most of the time. Do you have any suggestions?
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I would continue feeding him as you currently are until he has lost enough weight to be about a body condition score of 5 to 6/9. (I tend to feed overweight horses at about one to 1 1/2 percent of their target weight until they have lost the desired amount of weight.) To determine if his protein, calcium and phosphorus intake is adequate, you can either estimate the hay quality or have the hay tested, although if he is reaching target weight, it is not that critical. Also, make sure that he is receiving a trace mineral salt (TMS) appropriate for your area of the country. If you are in a selenium deficient area, make sure that TMS block contains selenium. If desired, you may provide him with some extra supplementation; many of the feed companies have developed products for this type of horse, such as Purina’s Wellsolve line.
As for the nervous/spooky behavior, it is important to determine if this is his nature or if there is a concurrent medical concern. Making sure that he can see normally is especially important as lack of vision often affects a horse’s behavior.
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Question: When buying hay for horses, could you please explain the value of only considering hay that has been tested for moisture, molds, relative food value, protein percentage, etc., and provide a range of what is acceptable for each (assuming free choice minerals/salt are given, but no grain is included in the feed rations) to insure proper nutrition?
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As no age or working status of your horse was given, nutritional requirements for a mature horse in light work will be used. Realize that the nutritional requirements can vary greatly depending upon the age of a horse and its activity level (breeding, growth, racing, maintenance, etc). The advantage of purchasing hay that has a nutritional analysis is that you know if the hay will meet the needs of your horse or if supplementation is needed. Most good quality mixed hay will meet the energy, protein, calcium and phosphorus needs of a horse in light work.
In the following example, mixed hay that is primarily grass is fed to a mature horse in light work.
Table 1: Average mixed – mostly grass hay (analysis taken from equi-analytical.com)
Dry Matter - 92.7% Crude Protein - 12.1%Energy - .94 Mcal/ Calcium - 0.7% Phosphorus - 0.26%
Table 2: Daily requirements for an 1100-pound, mature horse, in light work with a daily consumption of 2% of body weight
Dry Matter Intake - 22# Crude Protein - 1.64# Energy - 20.5 Calcium - 25 grams Phosphorus - 17.8 grams
Table 3: Approximate daily intake for a 1100-pound horse, if eating hay with the above analysis (no adjustment was made for difference in as fed/dry matter of above hay).
Dry Matter Intake - 22# Crude Protein - 2.67# Energy - 20.68 Mcal Calcium - 70 grams Phosphorus - 27.3 grams
As can be seen from the above example, this mixed hay will meet the needs of a mature horse in light work. The extra protein will be converted into energy and may result in a weight gain depending upon individual metabolism and other demands. In winter, additional energy is required for maintaining body temperature and the extra energy gained from the excess protein may not be adequate without additional calories supplied by carbohydrates (grain) or fat supplementation. If this hay had a lower energy and protein content, or the horse’s activity level was increased, additional supplementation of the diet would be required. Thus, knowing the nutritional value of a feed helps take the guesswork out of developing a diet while meeting the requirements for the horse.
Finally, a nutritional analysis does not normally check for any molds, toxins, etc.
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Question: Recently, I overheard a horse owner exclaim loudly in a barn that horse's cannot founder from feeding them large amounts of cut hay. That it was in fact "impossible for horses to founder from being fed large amounts of cut hay." It is my understanding that any horse overweight and overfed can founder from any hay, cut or still grass.
I welcome your scientific response to this person's statement.
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You are correct. Horses can founder if provided excessive calories, either in the form of hay or pasture. This is especially true for horses that have a tendency to be prone to Insulin Resistance/Equine Metabolic Syndrome. Hay that would be most likely to cause a problem is excellent second or third cutting where the protein and energy content is likely very high. However, the only true way to determine the quality of hay is by having the hay tested for its nutritional content, as even some first cutting hay can provide excessive calories when fed free choice.
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Question: I am interested to know if over mature (to the point that is is black standing in the field) clover is safe to cut and bale to feed to horses?
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Although safe to cut and bale (if it isn’t so dry that the bales will be dusty), I would suggest bush hogging (cutting) the field and wait till next year to harvest hay. If the clover field is so mature that the plants are black, there is likely very little nutrition left in the plants. Most of the protein and energy of a plant are found initially in the leaves. As the plant matures, the energy is concentrated in the seeds and the protein content of the seed varies with the type of plant (oats have more protein than corn). Since these plants are black/dead, the seeds have likely all fallen back to the ground and all that is left is the stem. You would need to provide additional energy and protein to even a mature non-working horse if this was used for feed. Finally, with the cost of fuel, wear and tear on machinery and labor costs, I would find another source of hay.
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